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buzzbee2

42 months ago

Do you think alcoholics and smokers should be treated on the NHS for drinking and smoking related illnesses?
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I believe that they should be given help to quit on the NHS. But, for instance, if a drunk person comes to Accident and Emergency who isnt enrolled on a quitting program, they shouldnt be treated, as their illness is their own fault. The same applies to smokers, if somebody comes with emphysema, they shouldnt be treated unless they have quit, or are in the process of quitting. I think NHS money can be put to better use treating people who are ill through no or little fault of their own.
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candynickle

  41 months ago
Absolutely not. Why should drunks get to monopolize doctors, nurses and anesthetists time after time when they go on a bender, or get a new liver that someone else could be taking care of? Same with smoking- all those pills, doctor's visits, x-rays and disability benefits, and they still bother other people with their smoke. If they're that bad off then they don't even work and pay NI and the rest of us pick up the tab.
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julest105

  41 months ago
Obesity related diabetes is also self-inflicted without paying the heavy taxes that smokers and drinkers do, I myself am type 1 diabetic (not weight related) and know the amount of care ( consultant, nurse, eye care, foot care, dietitian) to name just a few that it takes just to function on a day to day basis, therefore it is very unfair to pinpoint drinkers and smokers who's "addiction" is no worse than cramming 4 cream cakes and doing no exercise daily!!
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DangerCurves

  41 months ago
if they were told that continuing to proceed with that lifestyle would harm them yes they made that choice, so they should pay and also NOT get DLA
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karen19777

  41 months ago
I believe they should but only if they have given up for a few years before hand, otherwise they will just go back and forth whenever they feel like it, which is unfair for others who suffer.
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zeppellina

  41 months ago
Prevention through education would be the first good start.
But, I really would not like to see a healthcare system which abandons people in their hour of need, whether it was self-inflicted or not.
I have to agree with Kates' opinion below... Where would you stop with such a list...? The obesity rates in this country are are now causing far more harm in terms of diabetes, high cholestrol and high blood pressure rates, heart disease, heart attacks, and bone problems than smoking presently does, bearing in mind that the number of smokers has dropped, and the numbers of obesity in children and adults has increased.
If we get to a stage where we have to fill in a form which asks us our daily intake of fruit and veg, how many hours of cardio-vascular exercise we have done that day, our daily measured salt and sugar intake, and if any members of our family have been prone to any genetic illnesses, either physical or mental...and if that form decided if we were entitled to medical care or not.... Apart from the fact that over half of the population would be, under that criteria, no longer able to qualify for healthcare... Well, it would be a sad day for what we like to think of as a civilised society.
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kate.litman

  41 months ago
I think that they should be offered help on the NHS, but more money should be spent helping them to quit. Many people argue that they understand the risk that they are taking by excessive drinking or smoking, and therefore do not deserve treatment. However, you could also argue that a rugby player doesn’t deserve to be treated for a broken leg, because they took the risk of playing rugby, or that a girl who crossed the road and got run over doesn’t deserve to be treated, because they didn’t look both ways. Clearly, this reasoning is flawed. Having said that, it is still partially their responsibility, and perhaps priority should be given to patients whose problems have nothing to do with their lifestyles, but just bad luck. Also, I think health problems relating to over eating should be included in the same category as smoking and drinking.
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John Anderson1

  41 months ago
Yes, most smokers and drinkers have contributed massively to the treasury over the period of time that it usually takes to acquire their related diseases. We live in a society that is too obsessed with health and frightened to confront its own mortality. An physicians do take the Hippocratic Oath which commits them to treat all sick and injured people.
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stellaqueen

  41 months ago
I think that would be unfair and inhumane.... You cannot play god like that and decide who is worthy of treatment and who isnt. As others have said not only do smokers and drinkers pay tax on the products they buy but alot do workand pay tax like everyone else.
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mazzietydd

  41 months ago
I think that drinkers and smokers both pay more than their fair share in taxes to be able to get NHS treatment, personally. Check how much these things cost to produce, and how much the government adds on in tax. They're paying for themselves. While we're on the subject, I don't know why the government are so hellbent on alienating smokers when if they all gave up at the same time, the economy would be in an even worse state than it is now.
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ravenstar

  41 months ago
I'm not sure, you see, if you think about it, if you take out drinking alcohol and smoking then the amount of money made by those two industries combined would significantly damage the economy further, if the economy was in a better state than currently, it would cripple the UK economy, loads of money is made from advertising and selling alcohol and cigarettes. If prohibition occurs like in the US ages ago, people will not be happy. The fact is, these items are legal in this country and i do not smoke nor do I drink, but I know there's no way the govenment will do this nor will the public allow it- so in the end- irregardless of you thinking of not treating these people, the fact that these products are legal in this country means it's unfair for them not to be treated
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